ESO (1.3.15955) & WoW (6.1.15888) ZygorGuides w/ Regular Gold Data Updates

[xyuckfoux 209]

On 10/23/2016 at 5:03 PM, xyuckfoux said:

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This morning's gold updates

[kasia 15]

1 hour ago, xyuckfoux said:

This morning's gold updates

Zygor must read this topic because he update zygor minutes after you push the relase now its Version: 6.0.14887

[xyuckfoux 209]

On 10/23/2016 at 5:03 PM, xyuckfoux said:

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Fortunately for you guys I hadn't left the office yet, lol

[kasia 15]

43 minutes ago, xyuckfoux said:

Fortunately for you guys I hadn't left the office yet, lol

you are the best

[grossomg 0]

this was such a helpful resource. sad to see that you (likely and unfortunately) have to abandon the project, but just wanted to thank you for your contributions. good luck with all your future endeavors.  <3

[ktmaster 0]

3 hours ago, xyuckfoux said:

Felizmente para vocês eu não tinha deixado o escritório ainda, lol

Thank you so much!

[Rainsky 31]

So reading that it is either someone donates an account. Or you join Zygor and prevent people from sharing it?

[IvanCarlos 0]

Sadly the ESO Zygor Guides appears to be broken =/
Thanks anyway o/

[xyuckfoux 209]

15 hours ago, Rainsky said:

So reading that it is either someone donates an account. Or you join Zygor and prevent people from sharing it?

I wanted to extend an offer to Zygor for some work, since I've reverse engineered all of their products in their entirety and they could definitely use some help. Once I stop releasing here all that knowledge is going in the trash anyway.

Primarily because they're sending user's passwords in-the-clear, but also because there's a lot of simple things they can do that will improve their protections exponentially that the rest of the industry does when they can't use compiled code.

12 hours ago, IvanCarlos said:

Sadly the ESO Zygor Guides appears to be broken =/
Thanks anyway o/

Are you able to download it? From my understanding the One Tamriel update kinda screwed things up for them, but the guides should still be working in some capacity. I'll give it a test in a minute by reinstalling it and clearing my SavedVariables on the guide.

Latest gold data (2016-11-02):

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[xyuckfoux 209]

12 hours ago, IvanCarlos said:

Sadly the ESO Zygor Guides appears to be broken =/
Thanks anyway o/

I just tested it and it seems to be working as good as it ever did after the update.

Install (Extract) to: Documenst\Elder Scrolls Online\live\AddOns
Login to Game
Get to Character Select Screen
Ensure "Load Out of Date Addons" in the AddOn Menu
Ensure "Zygor Guides" are in the AddOn Menu
In-game, you should see in chat that guides were loaded:
You should see a guide window:
Press "." to unlock your mouse and click the guide selection button and choose the guide you want.

The One Tamriel update made it so anyone can level anywhere at any time, so there is no real "guide" outside of directing you to finish all the quests in whatever area you're in I guess.

[renemeson 4]

8 hours ago, xyuckfoux said:

I just tested it and it seems to be working as good as it ever did after the update.

Install (Extract) to: Documenst\Elder Scrolls Online\live\AddOns
Login to Game
Get to Character Select Screen
Ensure "Load Out of Date Addons" in the AddOn Menu
Ensure "Zygor Guides" are in the AddOn Menu
In-game, you should see in chat that guides were loaded:
You should see a guide window:
Press "." to unlock your mouse and click the guide selection button and choose the guide you want.

The One Tamriel update made it so anyone can level anywhere at any time, so there is no real "guide" outside of directing you to finish all the quests in whatever area you're in I guess.

Hey bro this  \Elder Scrolls Online  is not wow right?

 

This update work with the 7.1 wow?
 

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[xyuckfoux 209]

37 minutes ago, renemeson said:

Hey bro this  \Elder Scrolls Online  is not wow right?

 

This update work with the 7.1 wow?
 

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The one you linked is for WoW, and yes, will work for 7.1.

The post you quoted was me responding to IvanCarlos, who specifically had issues with the ESO (Elder Scrolls Online) release linked in the top post of this thread.

[renemeson 4]

9 hours ago, xyuckfoux said:

The one you linked is for WoW, and yes, will work for 7.1.

The post you quoted was me responding to IvanCarlos, who specifically had issues with the ESO (Elder Scrolls Online) release linked in the top post of this thread.

Thanks man for u response!

[Rainsky 31]

So basically when you stop releasing here. You want to join them and if you do. No one will be able to get a release at all because what you would do will prevent it.

[Firehawk 11]

1 hour ago, Rainsky said:

So basically when you stop releasing here. You want to join them and if you do. No one will be able to get a release at all because what you would do will prevent it.

That's the plan. But tbh, there's nothing he could do to prevent anyone from sharing, because there's no way to encrypt nor encode nor obfuscate WoW addons without releasing the way to reverse it. All you need is some lua/programming knowledge and a little brainpower. He knows that, so this here is very amusing:

On 30.10.2016 at 7:08 PM, BadassOverlord said:

constantly break Firehawk's mitigation attempts

 

[xyuckfoux 209]

9 hours ago, Firehawk said:

That's the plan. But tbh, there's nothing he could do to prevent anyone from sharing, because there's no way to encrypt nor encode nor obfuscate WoW addons without releasing the way to reverse it. All you need is some lua/programming knowledge and a little brainpower. He knows that, so this here is very amusing:

 

Firehawk is correct, there is no way to encrypt or encode WoW addons without it being possible to figure it out client-side, since the entire thing is written in Lua and must be decrypted client-side at time of usage.

However, this has not kept people with proprietary JavaScript or Python code from sufficiently obfuscating their code to keep anyone but the most dedicated from reversing it. Minification, re-tokenization, and then basic determinsitic (per-release, per-user) encryption (which also provides entropy for fingerprinting) and finally obfuscation methods are very successful. Right now they're only doing a one-time obfuscation for the Licensing mechanism that hasn't changed in a long time; Firehawk has just short-circuited it the same way I reverse-engineered it to create a Licence.lua generator.

Coupled with the fact that the release cycle for Zygor is rather short means opportunities to automatically change code paths (re-obfuscate), re-compress/encrypt/encode, re-fingerprint, and re-tokenize on a regular basis. The guide data itself should also be compressed, encoded, fingerprinted and encrypted, although you'd probably want to limit that or at least lazy load the majority of it to prevent it from being too strenuous on WoW's Lua engine when loading to memory. Finally, since a legitimate user should be using the Zygor client, the Zygor client has the opportunity to report and fingerprint/encrypt guides to specific realms/characters found in the SavedVariables folder, which could also be a factor baked into whatever deterministic obfuscation and encryption method is used.

Done successfully, it would require manual work each release to "decrypt" so it could be used publicly for each release, and even after that you'd likely be unsure if you got all the fingerprinting mechanisms removed which would lead to closure of the releasing account.

I've done work with jscrambler (JavaScript) and BitBoost's product (Python) that accomplishes most of this scope, and in fact a lot of it translates easily over to Lua once the tokenizer is written. Lua is very similar to JavaScript in syntax and usage, so that's probably the path of least resistance.

However, perhaps sufficient work has already been done on this front in Lua:

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Here's ZygorGuidesViewer.lua after the default obfuscation is applied with XFuscator (which admittedly is a bit extreme, lol):
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The only downside for Zygor I can see:
- Potentially increased load times
- Potentially increased file sizes
- Likely much more difficult to debug after built using obfuscation
- Some tweaking/modernizing would need to be done to the prior art obfuscators to make it function properly in WoW's Lua implementation
- Whatever man hours it takes to implement this stuff into the build process

Overall software protection is an arms race, and the vendor always loses in the long run. IMO, Zygor has done the bare minimum to even participate in the race, and thus is getting trampled by Firehawk, myself, and lots of other releasers. It's a shame; the product is actually very good, requires continual work to keep updated, and worth the money so well worth protecting.

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[Rainsky 31]

So it is well worth the money, when it is a monthly subscription. When before they have not done a release for 5-6 weeks.

[Dexter2015 15]

Potentially increased load times and let's not forget the more memory/ram use that obfuscation will take up from WoW (Check Pokemon Go for a good example of why obfuscation is a bad idea!).  Zygor already is way too high on ram use for an in-game addon (or any other addon for that matter) and people seem to forget it's only an in- game guide that you can find for free on WoWHead and a ton of other sites will it's helpful to have that in-game with arrow pointing where you want to go, at the moment the addon is bulked with a ton of stuff that it doesn't need or the force loading of every single guide at startup, it's way too heavy for a guide addon! (anyway just my 2 cents). Also the fact that Blizzard can block the addon at any moment like it's against their terms to not have the addon (without the guides) free online, but at the moment they not care but when he start with the obfuscation stuff they may act and enforce their rules!

[Mazahaka161 0]

plz ruRU made 

[Christhobald 1]

Zygor guide  Version: 6.0.14911 is out ;-)

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[Christhobald 1]

Nice , even better!! 

[xyuckfoux 209]

Today's updated guides with gold data:

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[xyuckfoux 209]

Not sure what happened to this site but I couldn't access it over the weekend.

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